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Ted Ward
Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2001 - 4:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post

Panoramas are a much more interesting topic when they can be reproduced or printed. The fold method and the cut and paste method leave much to be desired. Roll paper is available (8"x100') coated for inkjet printers. It seems that printer and software manufacturers are not very interested in supporting this option. Do you have plans for support in this area?
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mmtipps
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2001 - 11:54 am:   Edit PostDelete Post

I too am interested in Continuous panorama printouts without seams. The Panorama Factory software does an absolutely excellent job of stitching the pictures together. Do you have any plans to support continuous printouts in the future? Presently I know of only one program (Microsoft Picture It) that supports continuous printouts up to 27 inches in length on my HP 900 series printer.
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John Strait
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2001 - 8:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post

Banner printing is possible with the current release of The Panorama Factory, assuming that your printer also supports banner printing.

The method given here can be used to print panoramas of any length as long as the image height fits within the height of the banner paper.

The secret to banner printing with The Panorama Factory is to set up the printer properties correctly. The instructions given here have been tested with the HP Deskjet 930C printer, but similar procedures should work with most other printers (including printers from other companies) that support banner printing. Consult your printer manual for details specific to your printer.

You may also find it helpful to read the FAQ page Banner Printing and the Tips page Panoramas on Roll Paper & Epson 1270.


To set up for banner printing with the HP Deskjet 930C printer, follow these instructions:

1. Double-click the thumbnail for your final image to make it the current image in The Panorama Factory.

2. Run the Image Properties dialog from the Image menu to define your printed image size. Select either pixels/inch or pixels/cm under Image resolution and then enter your desired print width or height (in inches or cm) in the Image size W or H field. The Panorama Factory will automatically calculate the other image dimension. For example, if you enter image height, The Panorama Factory will automatically calculate the correct image width for that image height. When you are satisfied, press the OK button.

3. Run the Page Setup dialog from The Panorama Factory's File menu. Press the Printer... button to run the HP Page setup dialog and then press the Properties... button to run the HP Deskjet 930C Properties dialog.

4. On the HP Deskjet 930C Properties dialog, select the Banner printing checkbox. Press the OK button to return to the HP Page setup dialog and then press OK to return to The Panorama Factory Page Setup dialog.

5. On The Panorama Factory Page Setup dialog, select these values:
  • Orientation: Landscape
  • Layout: Full size
  • Left Margin: 0
  • Right Margin: 0
  • Top Margin: 0.25 inches (the minimum possible)
  • Top Margin: 0.25 inches (the minimum possible)

Under Multi-page printing, make sure that Overlap pages by drawing in margins and Draw registration marks in margins are not checked.

6. Press OK to close the Page Setup dialog.

7. Select Print preview from the File menu to check your work. If everything is set up correctly, you will see a series of horizontal pages with no left or right margins. That is, the printing will run right up to the edges of the pages.

8. Load your banner paper into your printer following the instructions supplied with your printer and then print your panorama using the Print button inside the preview window or the Print current image command from the File menu.

Using this method on the HP Deskjet 830C, you will get a continuous banner print of your panorama. Unfortunately, the lefthand edge of the image will start immediately at the edge of the paper. There is no ability to set a lefthand margin on the first page. This minor deficiency may be corrected in a future release of the product.


Good luck and have fun!
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Dave Whittaker
Posted on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 5:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post

John,
Thanks for the info on printing a continuous-form photo. However, I contacted Canon the same time that I contacted you and they said it could not be done on an S800. Supposedly, this is a photo printer and their comment was "Sorry". I wonder what brain-dead engineer at Canon developed a photo priner that couldn't print panoramic photos. Again, thanks for your help and please let potential users know of Canon's shortcomings. Thanks Dave
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Sriram K
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Posted on Sunday, November 06, 2005 - 8:28 am:   Edit PostDelete Post

Will it be possible to move the Panorama factory stamp to the side of the image. I am happy to give you credit and publicity, but it sucks to have the center of the image brutalized with the text. Is there any way we can move the credits in the free version to the side?

-Sriram
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John Strait
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Posted on Sunday, November 06, 2005 - 10:16 am:   Edit PostDelete Post

Hi Sriram,

The Panorama Factory V4 is not free software. It is try-before-you-buy software. You are permitted to use it without purchasing for 30 days for evaluation purposes only. The purpose of the evaluation period is to allow you to determine whether the software meets your needs before purchasing it. During the evaluation period it places a watermark on the images.

On the other hand, The Panorama Factory V1.6 is freeware. It does not place a watermark on the images at all. If you are unable or unwilling to purchase The Panorama Factory V4, I suggest you try V1.6.
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tchamber
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Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 10:53 am:   Edit PostDelete Post

Even printers that do support banner printing may not do a very good job. I have an Epson R800, which has a roll film holder and a driver that supports custom lengths. But it's an exercise in frustration to get it to work, and I've given up.

EZPrints (www.ezprints.com) does panorama printing. It's not cheap - $4.50 per linear foot - but probably worth it to avoid the aggravation and ink wastage with trying to get a print from an Epson.
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Tom Eakins
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Posted on Monday, December 19, 2005 - 1:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post

I am trying to print a panoramic image 83" long and 21" wide, using the panoramafactory software on my epson stylus pro7600 but it stopped printing after about 45" does this software not support printing larger than this?
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tchamber
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Posted on Monday, December 19, 2005 - 11:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post

Oh, my goodness. 83x21? I would have thought Windows would run out of virtual memory trying to spool a print that large.
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Tom Eakins
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Posted on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 5:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post

So in other words no this software does not support prints that large?
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John Strait
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Posted on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 7:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post

The Panorama Factory talks to the printer using the standard Windows printer driver interface. It is designed to support printing any size page that the printer driver supports. If you are able to set up the page size to be 83 x 21, The Panorama Factory should be able to print that size.

Were you able to set this page size using the Page Setup dialog box? Pressing the "Printer..." button and then the "Properties..." button accesses the printer manufacturer's dialog box. If you're able to set a page size on this dialog box, then The Panorama Factory should be able to print that size.

You wrote that it stopped printing after about 45". Do you mean that the print was truncated, i.e. part of the picture was missing? Or was the picture complete but the wrong size?

Unfortunately, printer problems are among the hardest to solve. There are so many different printers and printer manufacturers. It would be really nice if we could afford to purchase one of each for testing, but this is just not possible.
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Tom Eakins
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Posted on Wednesday, December 21, 2005 - 9:42 am:   Edit PostDelete Post

The print was truncated and yes i was able to set the print size in the printer dialog box....ie page setup etc......but again the print was truncated
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John Strait
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Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 2:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post

I am trying to reproduce your problem here on my own equipment. I do not have access to an Epson Stylus Pro 7600, but I do have an Epson Stylus Photo 2000P. Perhaps the printer drivers are similar enough that I can reproduce the problem.

The 2000P is a smaller format printer than the Pro 7600. The widest paper the 2000P accepts is 13", but it will print up to 130" long, so I am hoping that the 45" problem will show itself.

While I am trying things here, could you answer a few more questions?

1. Have you tried using Print Preview after setting up your printer? Does Print Preview show the picture properly or does it also truncate the image?

2. How big is your image (in pixels, shown above the thumbnail)?

3. Are you running Windows XP or an older version of Windows? Are you running on a regular Pentium or a 64-bit computer?

4. Is the printer connected directly to the computer you are running The Panorama Factory on or is it a network printer?
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John Strait
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Posted on Friday, December 23, 2005 - 3:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post

I have found the reason for your image being truncated. This problem has been fixed in the V4.2 release of The Panorama Factory.

I also want to report on my testing with the Epson Stylus Photo 2000P.

I was able to print a 12.7" x 100" picture on the 2000P. I ran The Panorama Factory V4.1 under Windows XP on a regular Pentium and used a printer connected to another computer and shared on the network.

This shows that The Panorama Factory is able to print more than 45". In other words, the problem is not simply related to the length of the printed image.

However, my testing turned up something in The Panorama Factory that under some circumstances will truncate printed images the way you describe. This problem is corrected in The Panorama Factory V4.2.


(Message edited by jstrait on January 06, 2006)
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daryl green
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Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 11:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post

Can any body help with priting continuos banner paper without joins on a cannon ip 3000
thanks
daryl
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TelKen
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Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2006 - 4:54 am:   Edit PostDelete Post

I use an Epson 1290, and have had no problems with length of pan prints, my largest so far being 84" x 12" on Olmec Glossy roll paper 329mm wide x 10m long. But I do use QImage, the latest version of this is very good.
About the only specific requirment for the printer driver is having a Banner mode.
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Mike Lougee
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Posted on Friday, January 06, 2006 - 3:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post

There's a photofinisher in New Jersey (see
http://www.elcocolor.com/hot_internet_only_specials.htm) that does big/cheap poster prints.

For example, a 20x30 is $9.95, and a 30x60 is $30. Some of those might be large enough for a pano, and certainly two of them joined (eg, 30x120) would be big panos.

Has anyone here tried them, to see about quality? They print on Fuji paper using Fuji chemical processing.

Crazy thought, but perhaps one could even do some post-processing w/ a PF output, in order to cut the pano in half (say a 15 x 120 pano, cut into a 15x60), place those two images stacked, print a 30x60 poster w/ the stacked images, then slice the poster in half, and get a final-produce 15x120 for *only* $30. Is that dumb?
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Tiamthara
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I use Corel Photopaint9 to manage and print out my PF pictures from HP 1120c printer with no problem. The lagest/longest print so far was about 2000 milimeters.I can't do it on my newer Canon and HP color laser printers so I think it depends on the printers driver rather than software I'm using.
If I need a very large picture-say 600 x 5000 mm.(about 24 x 200 inch) I will go to a professional banner print shop and order my print on PolyEthylene sheet with 1200x1200 dpi resolution for $30/sq.Meter (so it cost this print just $90 -much less than the cost of new sets of color ink only -not to mention the special photo paper I have to buy. Also the PE base picture will not fade and is weather resist even if I put it outdoor for 5 years.
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Terrel Shields
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With the increase in gas well drilling in the US, there is an incredible demand for continuous printing of digital well logs which are from 6" x 25' or more long to 11" x 25'. Many older geologists - many retired or one person offices- have file cabinets full of logs they need to scan, too. The only 2 scanners i found were $6000+ bucks, Panarama Factory would be ideal to stitch logs printed on 8.5 x 14" due to lack of media and formating available to geologists. current "banner" printers are usually inadequate and often difficult to find supplies
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Ed Hass
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Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 4:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post

Pano Printing try www.bigphotohelp.com very reasonable pricing and guaranteed.
No I am not part of that web site. Just interested in beimng able to get quality w/o 40 attempts and cost of the paper and ink to do so.
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Lori Dvir
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Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 6:06 am:   Edit PostDelete Post

Did you ever get the canon to print longer?
I have two methods. I set up my file in whatever program I am using. I save it. I open Publisher or a program called 'poster 7.9'. I make a blank banner the size of my saved file. I open the saved file and insert it into my blank. I set the driver to a banner setting. Both programs will override the embedded driver and print to 100 feet long. The program called 'poster 7.9' is on the web at www.postersw.com. The download is free for the first 10 times you hit the print button. After that, ther is a one time fee of $18.00. The program works but the instructions are poor.
With Publisher, you need to close the gap between the pages.
Hope this helps.
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Gerry Robinson
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Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 4:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post

I have an Epson R1800 with a roll holder. Trying to print on a 210mm X 10m roll. I have a panorama 210mm high and approx 658mm long to print. Does anyone have a method to do it. I can't seem to select any length greater than 594mm.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. I have only just started doing panoramas, although I have been taking pphotos fopr over 40 years!

Rgs

Gerry
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Kentelly
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Hi Gerry. I have printed up to 12 feet long, on my Epson 1290s, using 329mm x 10m roll paper.
But have only managed to do this, by using a special printing program from www.ddisoftware.com called QImage, it is not free, but comes with a lifetime of free updates and upgrades. I have no connection, just a very satisfied user.
HTHs.
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Gerry Robinson
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THanks for that Kentelly (or HTHs) That is a panorama (and a half!). Will look into it.

RGs

Gerry
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Kentelly
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Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 7:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post

Glad to be of help.

HTH = Hope That Helps.

And once you start getting some good pans printed, you won't want to stop. When exposing, I find if I haven't time or the light is too variable, that using bracketing can be a great help.

Rgds

Ken.
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Gerry Robinson
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Thanks for info Ken, managed to print one last night 570mm X 180mm using Photoshop. Thanks for tips on exposure, although I use Rawshooter Premium 2006 which allows me to change the exposure before converting it to a TIF. I do have an issue with a bit of shading which I couldn't get rid of on one vertical part of the picture but working on it.

Thanks again

Rgs


Gerry
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Kentelly
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Ah glad you are having some success. Sounds like you are ahead of me using RAW, afraid I can't get to grips with RAW. There are too many options for me, and not being very good at colour matching etc., by eye, I stick with JPGs, which I convert to TIFs as I download to computer from mem card.

I do get my leg pulled many times by my friends on another photog forum.

Rgds.

Ken.
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Gerry Robinson
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Once you use RAW you won't want to go back! The only issue with RAW is it takes a bit longer to process but the RAW photos are just like a negative and you can change the exposure etc just as if you had changed it within the camera (within reason that is). With a jpeg the camera decides your compression, exposure etc when the photo is taken. There is a free version of Rawshooter available which is very good too. Why don't you try it? As for the colour, I purchased a couple of ICC printer profiles from the company I got the R1800 from. That sets it up correctly for those types of paper. I mainly use Epson Semi gloss and Epson Archival matte (which is great for landscapes). I also have Gretag Macbeth monitor profile tool to set up the monitor so that whatever I have on the screen is the same as the finished print.

RGs

Gerry
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Kentelly
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Hi Gerry. I've tried all the RAW converters, I mean all. And I don't find the process suits my requirments.

If you're interested in another photo forum, based in the UK, of which I'm a founder member, you'll probably find we all have our own methods and styles.

The StudioForum at - > http://thestudio-online.co.uk/

Rgds

Ken.

PS.... Apologies to John Strait, if I'm breaking any rules here!
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Gerry Robinson
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Thanks Ken,
Will have a look at it. I still think Raw is best, even though it takes more processing

Rgs

Gerry
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Kentelly
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Gerry, I know I'm in the minority on using RAW, and I don't believe my way is the best, but it is the best for me. I'm too old to bother with the extra pp'ing required. I enjoy what I do, as do most others enjoy their ways.

I have no wish to convert people to my way, and I have no wish to change my way.
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Gerry Robinson
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Good for you,

Rgs

Gerry
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Lori Dvir
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First off, let me say that I did contact the owners of this software to get their permission to post since what I tell here may sound like an advertisment for my company.

I produce a line of cottons, silks, and linen that comes on rolls up to 30 feet long that run through any inkjet printer. With this fabric, you can take a panarama and it becomes a silk scarf, a table runner, a curtin, a flag, or just a long framable image on fabric. It is just like printing on paper. After you print, you pull the fabric off of the paper backing. The fabrics are washable on nearly all printers.
www.colortextiles.com

I have a 24 hour tech/shipping support line @ 702-845-5584. You either get an answer right away or a call back within an hour or so.

As far as your software issues, if you have the word banner as an option, the printer will print up to 100 feet long if you export your file to another program that costs about $18.00. The program is a free download for 10 uses. You get it at www.postersw.com. It is called Poster 7.9.
I find their instructions hard to follow, but it works great! You can also export your file to publisher. This program will also override the printer's restrictions and allow you to print over 72" at a time.

The last option is that I do print anyone's images on to the fabric up to 44" wide. You need to call the tech number to talk to me for pricing.

Hope this helps some of you!

Lori
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Gerry Robinson
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Thanks for info Lori,
I actually have a copy of Poster 7.7 which I registered in 2002! Haven't had need to use it for a long time as I use Photoshop for my printing. Perhaps I will look into it again.
You must use a lot of ink printing all that fabric?


Rgs


Gerry
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Adan Daroski
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For your practice prints use draft quality and grayscale with "black only" checked. If you don't check black only it will mix colors to get gray. The prints will be crappy but you won't waste much ink. Those HP black cartridges are extremely easy to refill BTW.
I had an HP 930 and printed a couple of banners with it. It was just a matter of selecting banner printing and sending it an image with the right print size – say 8.5 X 77 inches for American paper.

I would guess that the vast majority of people printing panoramas use Epson printers. I can print long prints up to about 129" using Photoshop CS2 on my 1290 and 2100. No banner mode involved - just an ordinary print.
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Coller Geo
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When I go into Canon Photo Professional and change the dpi output to 300 or 350, do I also need to go down to resize setting and change those? The vinyl banner will be 48x108 with the photo being about 24x36.
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David Richardson
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In my opinion the DPI is not as critical as the ratio. If the photo is 24 x 36 then if you sized it to scale on a 48" tall banner it would be 72" wide. You need to add more left or right, or crop more top and bottom to get the right ratio.

After you have the ratio, then make sure that the number of pixes is sufficient to support a quality print. For example I just had a 30" x 70" banner done and the pixel size for that was 2265 x 5385.

If in doubt, ask your printer for a template or sizing chart.
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